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		<title>Comment on The Ramchal on the Yomim Tovim by Mark Frankel</title>
		<link>http://www.beyondbt.com/2013/05/13/the-ramchal-on-the-yomim-tovim/comment-page-1/#comment-2891308</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Frankel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 May 2013 03:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Shmuel, probably not, because I wouldn&#039;t have delved that deep into the Ramchal. As you probably know, the contrast of two opinions forces you to try and gain greater clarity on both of them.

I don&#039;t think that it&#039;s a forced explanation and might in fact have been the Ramchal&#039;s intention. (Note: I added the word &quot;perhaps&quot; to number 4 above)

I just looked this up in the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/Elucidated-Derech-Hashem-Rabbi-Naiman/dp/1598269127&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Elucidated Derech Hashem&lt;/a&gt; by Rabbi Abba Zvi Naiman and he brings down both the Gaon and the Tur, but does state an opinion on how he thinks the Ramchal holds. I stated an opinion because Micha asked a Kasha (a question).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shmuel, probably not, because I wouldn&#8217;t have delved that deep into the Ramchal. As you probably know, the contrast of two opinions forces you to try and gain greater clarity on both of them.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think that it&#8217;s a forced explanation and might in fact have been the Ramchal&#8217;s intention. (Note: I added the word &#8220;perhaps&#8221; to number 4 above)</p>
<p>I just looked this up in the <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Elucidated-Derech-Hashem-Rabbi-Naiman/dp/1598269127" rel="nofollow">Elucidated Derech Hashem</a> by Rabbi Abba Zvi Naiman and he brings down both the Gaon and the Tur, but does state an opinion on how he thinks the Ramchal holds. I stated an opinion because Micha asked a Kasha (a question).</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Ramchal on the Yomim Tovim by shmuel</title>
		<link>http://www.beyondbt.com/2013/05/13/the-ramchal-on-the-yomim-tovim/comment-page-1/#comment-2891303</link>
		<dc:creator>shmuel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 May 2013 02:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mark, would you have said steps 1-4 if you had read only the Ramchal and weren&#039;t aware of the Gra&#039;s idea?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, would you have said steps 1-4 if you had read only the Ramchal and weren&#8217;t aware of the Gra&#8217;s idea?</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Ramchal on the Yomim Tovim by Mark Frankel</title>
		<link>http://www.beyondbt.com/2013/05/13/the-ramchal-on-the-yomim-tovim/comment-page-1/#comment-2891260</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Frankel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 May 2013 12:29:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Micha, I did include the clouds of glory on the 15th based on the Gaon and I&#039;m not convinced that the Ramchal disagrees. 

Here&#039;s a Monday morning quick analysis and possible reconciliation:

1) There were 2 sets of clouds, both of which indicate Hashem&#039;s protection

2) The question is: around which set should Succos be celebrated

3) The havamina (intial thought) is that it should be the first set because they came between the Exodus and the giving of the Torah and the Regalim are centered around the Exodus and Matan Torah

4) That is perhaps what the Ramchal is pointing out when he says &quot;even though this is not celebrated on the anniversary of the Exodus&quot;

5) The question then becomes, why didn&#039;t the Torah set Succos around the first set which is more closely related to the Exodus

6) According to Tur and the Gemora, it is a practical consideration, in that Hashem was concerned that observance in the spring would not have the same effect as observance in the fall, so the second set was picked

7) According to the Gaon and possibly the Ramchal, the spiritual energy and tikkun associated with the second set is stronger because there was an aspect of Teshuva involved and therefore the second is when Sukkos is celebrated. Perhaps that&#039;s what Ramchal meant when he said &quot;the Torah set a time that is appropriate for its commemoration&quot;.

8) It&#039;s even possible that everybody agrees with both reasons, it&#039;s just a question of the primary reason, or the more revealed reason versus the more hidden reason]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Micha, I did include the clouds of glory on the 15th based on the Gaon and I&#8217;m not convinced that the Ramchal disagrees. </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a Monday morning quick analysis and possible reconciliation:</p>
<p>1) There were 2 sets of clouds, both of which indicate Hashem&#8217;s protection</p>
<p>2) The question is: around which set should Succos be celebrated</p>
<p>3) The havamina (intial thought) is that it should be the first set because they came between the Exodus and the giving of the Torah and the Regalim are centered around the Exodus and Matan Torah</p>
<p>4) That is perhaps what the Ramchal is pointing out when he says &#8220;even though this is not celebrated on the anniversary of the Exodus&#8221;</p>
<p>5) The question then becomes, why didn&#8217;t the Torah set Succos around the first set which is more closely related to the Exodus</p>
<p>6) According to Tur and the Gemora, it is a practical consideration, in that Hashem was concerned that observance in the spring would not have the same effect as observance in the fall, so the second set was picked</p>
<p>7) According to the Gaon and possibly the Ramchal, the spiritual energy and tikkun associated with the second set is stronger because there was an aspect of Teshuva involved and therefore the second is when Sukkos is celebrated. Perhaps that&#8217;s what Ramchal meant when he said &#8220;the Torah set a time that is appropriate for its commemoration&#8221;.</p>
<p>8) It&#8217;s even possible that everybody agrees with both reasons, it&#8217;s just a question of the primary reason, or the more revealed reason versus the more hidden reason</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Ramchal on the Yomim Tovim by micha</title>
		<link>http://www.beyondbt.com/2013/05/13/the-ramchal-on-the-yomim-tovim/comment-page-1/#comment-2891248</link>
		<dc:creator>micha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 May 2013 09:45:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Did you include the return of the clouds of glory on your timeline because of the Vilna Gaon&#039;s idea that the clouds of glory returned on the 15th if Tishrei? (We received final atonement and the 2nd Tablets on Yom Kippur, the 10th, plus the days it took before started the building of the Tabernacle gets you to the 15th. We started the construction on the 15th, so the clouds returned on the 15th, and therefore Sukkos is on the 15th.)

Because I think the Ramchal&#039;s implication is more directly that of the Tur and the Sages of the Talmud; that Sukkos is at a time of year when sitting in the Sukkah is both likely (before the Israeli rainy season) but the weather is no longer so summery that one would sit in a hut if it weren&#039;t a mitzvah to do so. Thus making it a clear commemoration. Or as your translation, &quot;Even though this is not celebrated on the anniversary of the Exodus, the Torah set a time that is appropriate for its commemoration.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you include the return of the clouds of glory on your timeline because of the Vilna Gaon&#8217;s idea that the clouds of glory returned on the 15th if Tishrei? (We received final atonement and the 2nd Tablets on Yom Kippur, the 10th, plus the days it took before started the building of the Tabernacle gets you to the 15th. We started the construction on the 15th, so the clouds returned on the 15th, and therefore Sukkos is on the 15th.)</p>
<p>Because I think the Ramchal&#8217;s implication is more directly that of the Tur and the Sages of the Talmud; that Sukkos is at a time of year when sitting in the Sukkah is both likely (before the Israeli rainy season) but the weather is no longer so summery that one would sit in a hut if it weren&#8217;t a mitzvah to do so. Thus making it a clear commemoration. Or as your translation, &#8220;Even though this is not celebrated on the anniversary of the Exodus, the Torah set a time that is appropriate for its commemoration.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Are You Still A BT? by shmuel</title>
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		<dc:creator>shmuel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 May 2013 21:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t like to focus on myself or anyone else as a BT too much.  I prefer to focus on individuals as individuals.  Like any other category one uses, the category of BT has only limited usefulness.  So I use it when it&#039;s useful to me.

For example, I divide people into the categories &quot;tall&quot; and &quot;short&quot; when I need someone to help me reach something, but not when I choose a chavrusa or a friend or a real estate broker.  When height is relevant, I make use of it, and when it&#039;s not, I don&#039;t focus on it.  

Similarly, my (or someone else&#039;s) status as a BT is sometimes relevant,  and in such a case I make use of the category --one example is this site, where people with similar concerns and/or experiences related to being or having once been new to Torah observance, having more non-observant friends and relatives than many others, etc. can discuss those issues.

But that&#039;s as far as it goes.  The fact is, I wasn&#039;t raised in a family that kept the Mitzvot or knew much about Torah.  Although all my experiences have a part in making me who I am today, that one fact isn&#039;t necessarily bigger than any other.  The fact that I became very interested in the Torah and enthusiastic enough about its ideas and practices to make major changes in my life is a big part of who I am.  But I hope (and I believe) that such an interest and enthusiasm isn&#039;t limited to people who grew up non-observant.  The big life changes might be limited to those labelled as BT&#039;s, but who (after they&#039;ve made a commitment to be observant and become comfortable with it) spends a lot of time thinking about the fact that they grew up eating non-kosher food?  I don&#039;t, and I don&#039;t think it defines me.

As to the Torah knowledge issue, in the abstract if I had spent the twenty something years before I became observant involved in Talmud Torah, then it&#039;s hard to imagine I wouldn&#039;t be more knowledgable than I am.  But I don&#039;t focus on that, I just try to learn what I can now.  As far as not knowing as much as &quot;the FFB crowd,&quot; I just don&#039;t find that to be the case.  I know more than some and less than others.  My goal is to understand as much Torah as I can, not to compete with anyone else, so I don&#039;t think about it.

As to fitting in, in this area I also prefer to focus on individuals.  I form relationships with people based on getting to know them as individuals, and I hope they do the same for me.  I imagine that there may be people who aren&#039;t interested in interacting with me because I am labelled a &quot;BT,&quot; but I don&#039;t think about it at all, and such a person doesn&#039;t sound like a good person to surround myself with.  The idea that &quot;the ability to make people think you’re not a BT, as long as you don’t talk in learning, is a great worthwhile accomplishment&quot; was very foreign to my way of thinking.  The ability to make people surprised that you ARE a BT as a result of talking in learning with them sounds like much more of an accomplishment to me.

I get the impression that there are communities where my approach wouldn&#039;t work well.  I feel fortunate to live in a community where my approach does work for me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t like to focus on myself or anyone else as a BT too much.  I prefer to focus on individuals as individuals.  Like any other category one uses, the category of BT has only limited usefulness.  So I use it when it&#8217;s useful to me.</p>
<p>For example, I divide people into the categories &#8220;tall&#8221; and &#8220;short&#8221; when I need someone to help me reach something, but not when I choose a chavrusa or a friend or a real estate broker.  When height is relevant, I make use of it, and when it&#8217;s not, I don&#8217;t focus on it.  </p>
<p>Similarly, my (or someone else&#8217;s) status as a BT is sometimes relevant,  and in such a case I make use of the category &#8211;one example is this site, where people with similar concerns and/or experiences related to being or having once been new to Torah observance, having more non-observant friends and relatives than many others, etc. can discuss those issues.</p>
<p>But that&#8217;s as far as it goes.  The fact is, I wasn&#8217;t raised in a family that kept the Mitzvot or knew much about Torah.  Although all my experiences have a part in making me who I am today, that one fact isn&#8217;t necessarily bigger than any other.  The fact that I became very interested in the Torah and enthusiastic enough about its ideas and practices to make major changes in my life is a big part of who I am.  But I hope (and I believe) that such an interest and enthusiasm isn&#8217;t limited to people who grew up non-observant.  The big life changes might be limited to those labelled as BT&#8217;s, but who (after they&#8217;ve made a commitment to be observant and become comfortable with it) spends a lot of time thinking about the fact that they grew up eating non-kosher food?  I don&#8217;t, and I don&#8217;t think it defines me.</p>
<p>As to the Torah knowledge issue, in the abstract if I had spent the twenty something years before I became observant involved in Talmud Torah, then it&#8217;s hard to imagine I wouldn&#8217;t be more knowledgable than I am.  But I don&#8217;t focus on that, I just try to learn what I can now.  As far as not knowing as much as &#8220;the FFB crowd,&#8221; I just don&#8217;t find that to be the case.  I know more than some and less than others.  My goal is to understand as much Torah as I can, not to compete with anyone else, so I don&#8217;t think about it.</p>
<p>As to fitting in, in this area I also prefer to focus on individuals.  I form relationships with people based on getting to know them as individuals, and I hope they do the same for me.  I imagine that there may be people who aren&#8217;t interested in interacting with me because I am labelled a &#8220;BT,&#8221; but I don&#8217;t think about it at all, and such a person doesn&#8217;t sound like a good person to surround myself with.  The idea that &#8220;the ability to make people think you’re not a BT, as long as you don’t talk in learning, is a great worthwhile accomplishment&#8221; was very foreign to my way of thinking.  The ability to make people surprised that you ARE a BT as a result of talking in learning with them sounds like much more of an accomplishment to me.</p>
<p>I get the impression that there are communities where my approach wouldn&#8217;t work well.  I feel fortunate to live in a community where my approach does work for me.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Are BTs Treated as Second Class Citizens? by spaced out BT</title>
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		<dc:creator>spaced out BT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 May 2013 03:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think most BT&#039;s realize that FFB&#039;s have their own issues, mental baggage and pekelach and don&#039;t owe us any special obligations.If we can find ways to relate to each other as good neighbors, fellow mispalelim and friends, then great!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think most BT&#8217;s realize that FFB&#8217;s have their own issues, mental baggage and pekelach and don&#8217;t owe us any special obligations.If we can find ways to relate to each other as good neighbors, fellow mispalelim and friends, then great!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Are You Still A BT? by spaced out BT</title>
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		<dc:creator>spaced out BT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 May 2013 03:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can&#039;t relate to the question. My wife is FFB and I don&#039;t care to know whether the Jews I socialize with are BT&#039;s  and I couldn&#039;t care less what FFB&#039;s think of me. At the end of the day we are just-- people.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t relate to the question. My wife is FFB and I don&#8217;t care to know whether the Jews I socialize with are BT&#8217;s  and I couldn&#8217;t care less what FFB&#8217;s think of me. At the end of the day we are just&#8211; people.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Are You Still A BT? by Steve Brizel</title>
		<link>http://www.beyondbt.com/2013/05/08/are-you-still-a-bt/comment-page-1/#comment-2890634</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Brizel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 May 2013 01:04:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think that the concept of &quot;integration&quot; assumes , without considering the fact that a BT is a person, that different people are attracted by different aspects of Torah observance, that there is some sort of magical progression in one&#039;s religious growth as a BT so that when one meets a BT, the average FFB would never know that he or she is talking to a BT. That IMO is a huge error in strategy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that the concept of &#8220;integration&#8221; assumes , without considering the fact that a BT is a person, that different people are attracted by different aspects of Torah observance, that there is some sort of magical progression in one&#8217;s religious growth as a BT so that when one meets a BT, the average FFB would never know that he or she is talking to a BT. That IMO is a huge error in strategy.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Primacy of Torah and Mesorah by Steve Brizel</title>
		<link>http://www.beyondbt.com/2013/05/06/the-primacy-of-torah-and-mesorah/comment-page-1/#comment-2890633</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Brizel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 May 2013 00:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Any discussions at the Torah UMesorah convention about how to run and teach in out of town communities?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any discussions at the Torah UMesorah convention about how to run and teach in out of town communities?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Are You Still A BT? by Steve Brizel</title>
		<link>http://www.beyondbt.com/2013/05/08/are-you-still-a-bt/comment-page-1/#comment-2890632</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Brizel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 May 2013 00:57:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think that the much vaunted and discussed concept of &quot;integration&quot; really is code for having certain external mannerisms of behavior that allow a person to conform with his or her community. I think that it is a mistaken notion that  BTs have to totally sever and lose any and all sense of Hakaras Hatov for the contributions of their families, communities and lifestyles of origin. R Akiva and Resh Lakih, along with the Avos and Imahos,and Moshe Rabbeinu, remain the role models for BTs, not just in terms of their spiritual accomplishments, but as great spiritual personalities who were BTs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that the much vaunted and discussed concept of &#8220;integration&#8221; really is code for having certain external mannerisms of behavior that allow a person to conform with his or her community. I think that it is a mistaken notion that  BTs have to totally sever and lose any and all sense of Hakaras Hatov for the contributions of their families, communities and lifestyles of origin. R Akiva and Resh Lakih, along with the Avos and Imahos,and Moshe Rabbeinu, remain the role models for BTs, not just in terms of their spiritual accomplishments, but as great spiritual personalities who were BTs.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Have You Ever Read or Recommended &#8220;This is My G-d&#8221; By Herman Wouk? by David</title>
		<link>http://www.beyondbt.com/2013/05/01/have-you-ever-read-or-recommended-this-is-my-god-by-herman-wouk/comment-page-1/#comment-2890626</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 May 2013 21:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is a book for Jews who just want to be Jews - not for those who insist Haredi or Chassidic or other overzealous ssects are the only &quot;true&quot; Judaisms, but for those who want to be a light unto the nations, in *this* world.


Our Sages were doctors, merchants, shepherds, and productive contributors to the world around them. It is names of observant Jews, who work and contribute, who you see on university and hospital buildings.


After you read this book, read Ecclesiastes (Kohelet) and see how King Solomon lived. They are much the same, without wigs or matching hats or isolationist attitudes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a book for Jews who just want to be Jews &#8211; not for those who insist Haredi or Chassidic or other overzealous ssects are the only &#8220;true&#8221; Judaisms, but for those who want to be a light unto the nations, in *this* world.</p>
<p>Our Sages were doctors, merchants, shepherds, and productive contributors to the world around them. It is names of observant Jews, who work and contribute, who you see on university and hospital buildings.</p>
<p>After you read this book, read Ecclesiastes (Kohelet) and see how King Solomon lived. They are much the same, without wigs or matching hats or isolationist attitudes.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Have You Ever Read or Recommended &#8220;This is My G-d&#8221; By Herman Wouk? by Neil Harris</title>
		<link>http://www.beyondbt.com/2013/05/01/have-you-ever-read-or-recommended-this-is-my-god-by-herman-wouk/comment-page-1/#comment-2890493</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 May 2013 20:01:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I haven&#039;t read it, but maybe I should...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t read it, but maybe I should&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Links for 5/2/2013 &#8211; Shuls and Baseball, Black Hatter Bias, Becoming Frum by Steve Brizel</title>
		<link>http://www.beyondbt.com/2013/05/02/links-for-522013-shuls-and-baseball-black-hatter-bias-becoming-frum/comment-page-1/#comment-2890403</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Brizel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 May 2013 01:08:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I thought that the article &quot;The Bias Against Black Hatters&quot; was superb. &quot;Becoming Frum&quot; looks like a fascinating book.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought that the article &#8220;The Bias Against Black Hatters&#8221; was superb. &#8220;Becoming Frum&#8221; looks like a fascinating book.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Have You Ever Read or Recommended &#8220;This is My G-d&#8221; By Herman Wouk? by Charlie Hall</title>
		<link>http://www.beyondbt.com/2013/05/01/have-you-ever-read-or-recommended-this-is-my-god-by-herman-wouk/comment-page-1/#comment-2890385</link>
		<dc:creator>Charlie Hall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 May 2013 19:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It was assigned reading by the rabbi I was studying with when I was becoming frum! And he was absolutely right to assign it. Herman Wouk shows that it is not at all necessary to reject the rest of the world to embrace a Torah life. Rather, it is possible to contribute to the rest of the world as well as to your own community.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was assigned reading by the rabbi I was studying with when I was becoming frum! And he was absolutely right to assign it. Herman Wouk shows that it is not at all necessary to reject the rest of the world to embrace a Torah life. Rather, it is possible to contribute to the rest of the world as well as to your own community.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Primacy of Torah and Mesorah by Mr. Cohen</title>
		<link>http://www.beyondbt.com/2013/05/06/the-primacy-of-torah-and-mesorah/comment-page-1/#comment-2890382</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Cohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 May 2013 19:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Magazine for &lt;i&gt;Charedi Baalei Teshuvah&lt;/i&gt; is in danger of vanishing:

http://www.jewishideasdaily.com/6438/features/the-black-hat-underground/3]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Magazine for <i>Charedi Baalei Teshuvah</i> is in danger of vanishing:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.jewishideasdaily.com/6438/features/the-black-hat-underground/3" rel="nofollow">http://www.jewishideasdaily.com/6438/features/the-black-hat-underground/3</a></p>
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