Comments on: Parshas Toldos – FFB and BT Tzaddikim http://www.beyondbt.com/2009/11/19/parshas-toldos-ffb-and-bt-tzaddikim/ Baalei Teshuva / Baalei Teshuvah and Other Growth Oriented Jews Thu, 11 Mar 2010 16:24:17 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Steve Brizel http://www.beyondbt.com/2009/11/19/parshas-toldos-ffb-and-bt-tzaddikim/comment-page-1/#comment-388752 Steve Brizel Wed, 25 Nov 2009 23:29:18 +0000 http://www.beyondbt.com/?p=1594#comment-388752 IMO, based on the Netziv at the end of Parshas Chayei Sarah, one can and should compare the interaction between Avraham and Sarah and Yitzchak and Rivkah and why Rivkah had to resort to dressing Yaakov like Esau as a means of understanding that while Yitzchak may have been on a higher spiritual level as a FFB, Rivkah's perspective, based on her being raised in the far less spiritual environment was far more realistic with respect to her evaluation of the respective potential and future roles of Yaakov and Esau . One can maintain that Rivkah, just as Sarah, had a greater sense of Nvuah about these issues than her husband. IMO, based on the Netziv at the end of Parshas Chayei Sarah, one can and should compare the interaction between Avraham and Sarah and Yitzchak and Rivkah and why Rivkah had to resort to dressing Yaakov like Esau as a means of understanding that while Yitzchak may have been on a higher spiritual level as a FFB, Rivkah’s perspective, based on her being raised in the far less spiritual environment was far more realistic with respect to her evaluation of the respective potential and future roles of Yaakov and Esau . One can maintain that Rivkah, just as Sarah, had a greater sense of Nvuah about these issues than her husband.

]]> By: Bob Miller http://www.beyondbt.com/2009/11/19/parshas-toldos-ffb-and-bt-tzaddikim/comment-page-1/#comment-388137 Bob Miller Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:48:25 +0000 http://www.beyondbt.com/?p=1594#comment-388137 Nathan, see what our commentators say about your quoted passage. Nathan, see what our commentators say about your quoted passage.

]]> By: Nathan http://www.beyondbt.com/2009/11/19/parshas-toldos-ffb-and-bt-tzaddikim/comment-page-1/#comment-388091 Nathan Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:18:14 +0000 http://www.beyondbt.com/?p=1594#comment-388091 "Rashi says that Yitzchak’s prayers were answered instead of Rifkas because he was a Tzaddik, who was a child of a Tzaddik, while Rivka was a Tzaddik who was the child of a Rasha." I explain this by quoting Shemot [Exodus] chapter 20, also known as The Ten Commandments, in which G_d revealed that He remembers the rightous for thousands of generations and punishes the descendants of the wicked for 4 generations. “Rashi says that Yitzchak’s prayers were answered instead of Rifkas because he was a Tzaddik, who was a child of a Tzaddik, while Rivka was a Tzaddik who was the child of a Rasha.”

I explain this by quoting Shemot [Exodus] chapter 20, also known as The Ten Commandments, in which G_d revealed that He remembers the rightous for thousands of generations and punishes the descendants of the wicked for 4 generations.

]]> By: Bob Miller http://www.beyondbt.com/2009/11/19/parshas-toldos-ffb-and-bt-tzaddikim/comment-page-1/#comment-388087 Bob Miller Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:59:59 +0000 http://www.beyondbt.com/?p=1594#comment-388087 Rabbi Haber's explanation cited above is interesting, and would appeal to BT's, but is not convincing. It's too general and may not apply at all to the situations and thought patterns of our Avos and Imahos. Rabbi Haber’s explanation cited above is interesting, and would appeal to BT’s, but is not convincing. It’s too general and may not apply at all to the situations and thought patterns of our Avos and Imahos.

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