Beyond BT

Baalei Teshuvah and Other Growth Oriented Jews

Catching Bagels

Posted on | May 15, 2008 | By David Linn | 12 Comments

Print Friendly

It’s probably happened to most of us. You’re out somewhere, it could be at work, a museum, a park or anywhere else, and someone walks over and throws you a bagel. If you’re lucky it isn’t frozen. Well, I’m not really talking about that kind of a bagel. “Being Bageled” is a phrase that, while not coined by him, is becoming popularized by Rabbi Mordechai Becher. It’s basically when a person who is not visually identifiable as being Jewish (at least in their own eyes) says something to you so that you know that they too are Jewish.

Example: I was sitting at a real estate closing when the buyer walked in with 4-5 additional family members. The buyer’s attorney turned to me and whispered “Oy, they brought the gantza mishpachah!”

Rabbi Becher tells a hilarious Bagel story. He was traveling in Budapest when a couple of tourists approached him and asked how to find a certain marketplace. Rabbi Becher pointed the way and one of the tourists said “Thanks a lot. You know what, we’ve been wandering around for a while, we wouldn’t want to be wandering around for forty years like last time!”

Why do people bagel? Is it because they are looking for commonality? Friendship? Something else? How do you respond to a bagel? A shmear and some lox? A discussion of where the person is from? Something else? Rabbi Becher says that being bageled is siyata deshmaya (divine providence) but how we react to the bagel is part of our “free will” and can often be quite critical. Anybody out there have a good bagel story or some good insights on the bagel phenomenon?

Be Sociable, Share!

Comments

12 Responses to “Catching Bagels”

  1. Heidi
    May 15th, 2008 @ 12:50 pm

    This post made me laugh. I have a lot of stories, but of course none are coming to mind at the moment. Also, sometimes I dont think people even realize they are bageling… My husband had a coworker, who was a self-proclaimed Christian… And she made a comment like “I love Jews, I think there are even some in my extended family, my mother’s mother was Jewish”

  2. David Linn
    May 15th, 2008 @ 2:11 pm

    Oy!

  3. Ellen
    May 15th, 2008 @ 9:23 pm

    I think the bageling phenomenon has to do with wanting not to feel isolated as a Jew. I bet most of these bagel stories take place in areas with very few, if any, Jews around. No matter how assimilated most Jews are, there’s something about being out in Hotzaplotz and no Jews in sight. When a easily identified frummie shows up, we’re a welcome connection to the tribe. We Jews know we’re not ever going to be winners of any popularity contests. And there’s safety in numbers.
    In my 12 Step meetings I’ve occasionally brought up issues related to my being Jewish. You’d be amazed at how many Jews suddenly crawl out of the woodwork after the meeting, glad not to be the only Jew in the room (I’m pretty glad, myself). My dad was always on the lookout for Jews wherever he went, and was always concerned about someone making negative associations with Jews. I remember in 1980 when someone attempted to assassinate the pope, my dad’s immediate comment was, “I sure hope the guy wasn’t Jewish (and I don’t think he was referring to the pope, either).”

  4. David Linn
    May 15th, 2008 @ 9:51 pm

    While it’s probably likely that bageling is more prominent in areas that have a smaller Jewish population, it’s certainly not limited to those areas. I’ve been bageled numerous times in the heart of New York City!

  5. Albany Jew
    May 16th, 2008 @ 10:12 am

    I find it sometimes happens when walking to shul on Shabbos.(for example, by someone putting something in their trunk or jogging by) It is usually the “Shabbat Shalom” greeting but it has taken on other iterations. If it is on the way back, I have sometimes tried to get them for the meal (not the joggers) but never successful so far.

    PS We mostly have Lender’s here so they only hold so much cream cheese.

  6. David Linn
    May 16th, 2008 @ 10:52 am

    I’ve been on a low carb diet for weeks so even Lender’s would cut it.

  7. Adam H
    May 16th, 2008 @ 12:13 pm

    Actually, I am usually the bagel-or rather than the bagel-ee.

    I don’t wear what my [modern Orthodox] rabbi calls ‘the uniform’, so whenever I visit a more frummy neighborhood for a shiur or for kosher shopping I will sometimes approach, well, what we call ‘black-hats’ to ask directions, or, say, “Where do you find Pesach mayonnaise around here?”

  8. David Linn
    May 16th, 2008 @ 1:23 pm

    Adam, so why do you think we bagel? (BTW, asking for pesach mayonnaise is not a bagel, that’s a matzah!)

  9. Fern R
    May 18th, 2008 @ 4:53 am

    I think the bageling phenomenon has to do with wanting not to feel isolated as a Jew. I bet most of these bagel stories take place in areas with very few, if any, Jews around.

    Ehh, I don’t think there is any correlation between size of the Jewish community and frequency of bageling. I live in the LA area, the second largest Jewish community in the U.S. and I often feel compelled to let someone I know is Jewish that I am Jewish too. Likewise, people do the same to me. Even in a large Jewish community, it is readily apparent that Jews are a tiny minority.

    I actually think that the larger the Jewish community, the more bageling occurs, because there is more opportunity and the bageler thinks that there is a higher liklihood that the bagelee is Jewish.

  10. Doodie Miller
    May 19th, 2008 @ 12:34 pm

    As the person who “coined” the term “bagel theory” and “bageling” I am so glad it is getting so much “play” and am happy that it makes people think and perhaps allows them to be better people and to come closer with Hashem.

  11. David Linn
    May 19th, 2008 @ 12:53 pm

    Doodie,

    Do we owe you any residuals? ;)

  12. Charnie
    May 20th, 2008 @ 11:15 am

    Isn’t bageling a kin of Jewish Geography? Does every ethnic group have this need to find a common denominator? Like my cousin’s in-laws who went to the country with your neighbors cousins? I think, from what I’m told by my coworkers, that people from India also play this game a lot.

Leave a Reply





  • RSS Shul Politics

  • Popular Posts

  • Advisors

    Rabbi Yakov Horowitz (Monsey)
    Rabbi Herschel Welcher (Kew Gardens Hills)

    Project Administrators

    Mark Frankel (Kew Gardens Hills)
    David Linn (Kew Gardens Hills)

    Current Contributors

    Email us at beyondbt@gmail.com if you would like to contribute

    Azriela Jaffe (Highland Park, NJ)
    Bracha Goetz (Baltimore, MA)
    Neil Harris (Chicago)
    Rabbi Yonason Goldson (St. Louis)
    Ron Coleman (Passaic)
    Guest Contributors

    Past Contributors

    Akiva (Eretz Yisroel)
    Aliza Hausman (Bronx, NY)
    Anxious Ima (Eretz Yisroel)
    Aryeh Leib Ecker (Kew Gardens Hills)
    A Simple Jew (United States)
    Avrahom-Moishe Erlenwein (Postville, Iowa)
    Belle (New Jersey)
    Bob Miller (Indianapolis, IN)
    Chava Ashkenazi (Ramat Bet Shemesh)
    Daniel Rosenthal (Passaic)
    David Kirschner (Kew Gardens Hills)
    Dixie Yid (The South)
    Eliahu Levenson (Toronto)
    Fern (California)
    Frumhouse (Chicago)
    Ilanit Meckley (Houston)
    Jewish Deaf Motorcycle Dad (Virginia)
    Judy Resnick (Far Rockaway)
    Leah Levenson (Toronto)
    Katrin (Modiin)
    Kressel Housman (Monsey)
    Maya (New York City)
    Melech (Passaic)
    Menachem Lipkin (Bet Shemesh)
    Meyer (Atlanta)
    Michael Goodheart (Jerusalem)
    Michael Gros (Ramat Beit Shemesh)
    Michoel (Baltimore)
    Ora (Jerusalem)
    Phyllis (Dallas)
    Rabbi Alter Klein (Bet Shemesh)
    Rabbi David Schallheim (Jerusalem)
    Rabbi Daniel Travis (Har Nof)
    Rabbi Label Lam (Monsey)
    Rabbi Lazer Brody (Ashdod)
    Rabbi Max Weiman (St. Louis)
    Rabbi Mayer Schiller (New Square)
    Rabbi Moshe Zionce (Toronto)
    Rabbi Shlomo Goldberg (Los Angeles)
    Rabbi Zev Kahn (Chicago)
    Rachel Adler (U Penn)
    Rebecca Weiser (U Texas)
    Rivkah (Baltimore)
    Ross Kryger (TriState Area)
    Shayna (Monsey)
    Shirah Shuraqui (Toronto)
    Shoshana (Passaic)
    Shoshanna Silcove (Melbourne)
    Simon Synett (Ramat Beit Shemesh)
    Steve Brizel (Kew Gardens Hills)
    Susanne Goldstone (Washington Heights)
    William Kolbrener (East Coast)
    Yaakov Astor (Monsey)
    Yaakov Eric Ackland (East Coast)

  • Categories

  • S.M.