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	<title>Comments on: The Nightingale</title>
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		<title>By: Beckie</title>
		<link>http://www.beyondbt.com/2006/09/07/the-nightingale/comment-page-1/#comment-11284</link>
		<dc:creator>Beckie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2006 19:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also have a really hard time with rituals and tend to be more spiritual...this is probably why I am reform. I am debating about the different Jewish sects and practices at Jewish Connection, about their personal beliefs and being &quot;stiff necked&quot; does seem to be a trait shared by one person. I find that finding smaller ways to make your faith important, like the mitzvahs you took, will allow you to appreciate your roots and faith even more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also have a really hard time with rituals and tend to be more spiritual&#8230;this is probably why I am reform. I am debating about the different Jewish sects and practices at Jewish Connection, about their personal beliefs and being &#8220;stiff necked&#8221; does seem to be a trait shared by one person. I find that finding smaller ways to make your faith important, like the mitzvahs you took, will allow you to appreciate your roots and faith even more.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaded Topaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jaded Topaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Sep 2006 00:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love the diamonds metaphor,great imagery and concept , quick question though , are the rocks in the given parcel, Cubic Zirconia , Semi Precious or Precious stones.I hope all my rocks  turn into sparkly pink diamonds (and  before I get too scratched and scruffed up from the rough edges and suprisingly splintered facets). 

But  is it ok to just polish /smooth out the rough edges and  focus exclusively on the splintered facets of the precious stones like rubies/ sapphires and diamonds (preferably pink) . And or  the semi precious stones like Jade/ Rainbow Quartz/  or Pink Tourmaline.Do we have to work on the Cubic Zirconia stones also, which are possibly the heaviest in addition to being artificially manufactured with man made materials .Sometimes they  just weigh everything else down and make things so much more cumbersome and stuff . Or is the given parcel like Forest Gump&#039;s proverbial &quot; life is like a box of chocolates you never know what ure gonna get&quot;.If you think about it though ,eating all the chocolates in the  box cuz you dont know which one has the good rum filling is just a little excessive bordering on uneducated and then there&#039;s the  possiblity of reverse peristalsis which  would make all the chocolates and all the stones precious /semi precious and fabricated just go away by default.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love the diamonds metaphor,great imagery and concept , quick question though , are the rocks in the given parcel, Cubic Zirconia , Semi Precious or Precious stones.I hope all my rocks  turn into sparkly pink diamonds (and  before I get too scratched and scruffed up from the rough edges and suprisingly splintered facets). </p>
<p>But  is it ok to just polish /smooth out the rough edges and  focus exclusively on the splintered facets of the precious stones like rubies/ sapphires and diamonds (preferably pink) . And or  the semi precious stones like Jade/ Rainbow Quartz/  or Pink Tourmaline.Do we have to work on the Cubic Zirconia stones also, which are possibly the heaviest in addition to being artificially manufactured with man made materials .Sometimes they  just weigh everything else down and make things so much more cumbersome and stuff . Or is the given parcel like Forest Gump&#8217;s proverbial &#8221; life is like a box of chocolates you never know what ure gonna get&#8221;.If you think about it though ,eating all the chocolates in the  box cuz you dont know which one has the good rum filling is just a little excessive bordering on uneducated and then there&#8217;s the  possiblity of reverse peristalsis which  would make all the chocolates and all the stones precious /semi precious and fabricated just go away by default.</p>
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		<title>By: Ora</title>
		<link>http://www.beyondbt.com/2006/09/07/the-nightingale/comment-page-1/#comment-10834</link>
		<dc:creator>Ora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Sep 2006 00:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice post Gregg.

I was almost your exact opposite--I always considered myself an intellectual, but when it came to taking on mitzvot, I always had to take on the mitzvah before I could find the meaning in it.  As of today I feel lots of meaning in, and connection to, the mitzvot I keep, but I took all of them on without any feeling of connection.  To each their own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post Gregg.</p>
<p>I was almost your exact opposite&#8211;I always considered myself an intellectual, but when it came to taking on mitzvot, I always had to take on the mitzvah before I could find the meaning in it.  As of today I feel lots of meaning in, and connection to, the mitzvot I keep, but I took all of them on without any feeling of connection.  To each their own.</p>
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		<title>By: M</title>
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		<dc:creator>M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Sep 2006 22:59:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post. Thank you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post. Thank you</p>
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		<title>By: Rabbi Dovid Schwartz</title>
		<link>http://www.beyondbt.com/2006/09/07/the-nightingale/comment-page-1/#comment-10822</link>
		<dc:creator>Rabbi Dovid Schwartz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Sep 2006 22:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gregg-
It was great seeing you at the Shabbaton and even greater to see you posting and getting involved.

Stubborn is actually a good and characteristically Jewish trait.  The Maharal of Prague, when explaining the Biblical term “a stiff-necked people” and the Prophet Jonah’s reluctance to bring a T’shuva message to Nineveh,  says that the Jewish people, vis a vis other nations of the world, are more about form (Tsura) and less about material (Chomer).  Materials can shed and adopt new forms all the time (think un-kilned clay) but for something that is intrinsically form to change its very essence is much harder, but, more permanent. More simply put-for a stubborn people or individual it may take longer to do T’shuva but once a T’shuva makeover is achieved it is more permanent.  

Also, I’ve never met a true Masmid (diligent, intoxicated by Torah, student of Torah) who was not also a stubborn son-of-a-gun.  Now that you’ve found a metaphor that speaks to you I hope that you will embrace Mitzvah Observance and Torah Study with the same stubborn tenacity that marked your resistance to them (and veggies) up until now!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gregg-<br />
It was great seeing you at the Shabbaton and even greater to see you posting and getting involved.</p>
<p>Stubborn is actually a good and characteristically Jewish trait.  The Maharal of Prague, when explaining the Biblical term “a stiff-necked people” and the Prophet Jonah’s reluctance to bring a T’shuva message to Nineveh,  says that the Jewish people, vis a vis other nations of the world, are more about form (Tsura) and less about material (Chomer).  Materials can shed and adopt new forms all the time (think un-kilned clay) but for something that is intrinsically form to change its very essence is much harder, but, more permanent. More simply put-for a stubborn people or individual it may take longer to do T’shuva but once a T’shuva makeover is achieved it is more permanent.  </p>
<p>Also, I’ve never met a true Masmid (diligent, intoxicated by Torah, student of Torah) who was not also a stubborn son-of-a-gun.  Now that you’ve found a metaphor that speaks to you I hope that you will embrace Mitzvah Observance and Torah Study with the same stubborn tenacity that marked your resistance to them (and veggies) up until now!</p>
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		<title>By: Neil Harris</title>
		<link>http://www.beyondbt.com/2006/09/07/the-nightingale/comment-page-1/#comment-10793</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Sep 2006 18:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gregg,
Awesome posting.  It refreshing to hear your words as Rosh Hashana approached.  Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gregg,<br />
Awesome posting.  It refreshing to hear your words as Rosh Hashana approached.  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: David Linn</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Linn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Sep 2006 13:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great moshel, thanks for sharing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great moshel, thanks for sharing.</p>
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